c_schumacker replied: "There is a lot of emotion and mixed information on this complicated issue. Unfortunately there is no 100% concensus on exactly what to do. There is a general thread of recommendation. SSRI's are first line recommendations in patients who suffer from moderate to severe psychiatric illness, depression and anxiety due to the adverse consequences of untreated illness. There do appear to be some minor complications in a few children who have been exposed to SSRI's at the third trimester. (see below) Further there is the concern of passing the medication through breast milk once the child is born. Some medications are better than others and some simply have not been studied as hard. (like Effexor). I think if you can tolerate Luvox (and it works for you) then that would be one you could take with relative safety and continue to take it through breast feeding.
Cohen LS, et al published in JAMA that pregnancy is not "protective" with respect to risk of relapse of major depression. Women with histories of depression who are euthymic (normal thyroid) in the context of ongoing antidepressant therapy should be aware of the association of depressive relapse during pregnancy with antidepressant discontinuation.
Suppaseemanont asserted that current appropriate treatment for pregnant women with moderate and severe depression is antidepressant medication, although there is no consensus on the best antidepressants for use in pregnancy. Thus, the psychotropic drug must be chosen carefully to minimize negative effects on infants and mothers, for some studies have demonstrated deleterious effects on infants.
Sivojelezova A, et. al. studied Celexa. They concluded that Citalopram (Celexa) use during the period of embryogenesis in pregnancy (early term) is not associated with an apparent major teratogenic risk (birth defect and lost of the baby). Late pregnancy use of citalopram is associated with increased risk of poor neonatal adaptation syndrome, recently described with other selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.
These thoughts are echoed with Kalra S in a article trying to arrive at reasonable advice on the subject. Antidepressant use during the third trimester has been associated occasionally with a transient neonatal withdrawal-like syndrome characterized by jitteriness, self-limiting respiratory difficulties, and problems with feeding. When counseling patients, the risk of these adverse effects must be weighed against the risks associated with untreated depression during late pregnancy. Abrupt discontinuation of psychotropic medications has been associated with both physical (eg, withdrawal) and psychological (eg, suicidal thoughts) symptoms.
Bellantuono C, et al published an article recently. The pregnancy is considered to be relatively high risk period for depressive episodes in women, particularly for those with pre-existing affective disorders. Epidemiological studies indicate that between 10% to 16% of pregnant women fulfil the diagnostic criteria for major depression and on average 20% is affected by an anxiety disorder. Pharmacological treatment of depression during pregnancy, however, brings with it certainties and dilemmas. It has been reported that untreated depression is associated with impaired feto-placental function, premature delivery, miscarriage, low fetal growth and perinatal unwanted effects. On the other hand, the use of antidepressant drugs in pregnancy might be at risk of major malformations (teratogenesis), neonatal toxicity, especially withdrawal symptoms and neuropsychological-behavioural impairment. In addition, the abrupt discontinuation of antidepressants, because of fear for adverse fetal effects, exposes women to serious clinical problems, in particular the disease relapse. A number of reviews indicates that among antidepressant drugs, the older SSRIs (in particular fluoxetine, sertraline, citalopram) seem to be avoided of teratogenic risks; for these reasons such drugs are nowadays considered of choice for the treatment of depression during pregnancy. Less information is available for other drugs, including triciclycs, venlafaxine, mirtazapine, bupropion, escitalopram and duloxetine. Withdrawal symptoms have been reported for all antidepressants; these symptoms, however, were self-limiting in majority of cases and had a favourable outcome. Inconclusive findings emerge, so far, from the few longitudinal studies focusing on the long-term neurodevelopment outcome in children.
Nordeng H, et al from Norway wanted to explore the passing of medication through breast milk. Data from the literature indicate that the relative dose to the infant is lowest for fluvoxamine and sertraline, somewhat higher for paroxetine and highest for citalopram and fluoxetine. Adverse effects were reported in three of the 119 breastfed infants. Our own results show minimal excretion of fluvoxamine (Luvox), small excretion of paroxetine (Paxil) and higher excretion of citalopram into breast milk. If treatment with a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor is started during the postpartum period, fluoxetine (Prozac) should not be the first alternative. High doses of citalopram should also be used with caution. However, when the use of an SSRI is clearly indicated in a breastfeeding woman, available data generally indicate that the positive effects of breast-feeding outweigh the risks for pharmacological effects in the infant.
In a somewhat older article (2001), Altshuler LL, et al. concluded that among antidepressants, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) were recommended as first-line treatment in all situations. The specific SSRIs that were preferred depended on the particular clinical situation. Tricyclic antidepressants were highly rated alternatives to SSRIs in pregnancy and lactation.In evaluating many of the treatment options, the experts had to extrapolate beyond controlled data in comparing treatment options with each other or in combination. Within the limits of expert opinion and with the expectation that future research data will take precedence, these guidelines provide some direction for addressing common clinical dilemmas in women, and can be used to inform clinicians and educate patients regarding the relative merits of a variety of interventions.
I hope all of this did not overwhelm you too much. I wanted you to see that there are solid studies on this subject that can help guide the decision process. You might want to print all of this out and bring it to your physician for his/her input. Good Luck!!"
drsuria_cbe replied: "Avoid drugs as far as possible , especially antidepressant drugs."
Taking Lexapro safe during pregnancy??? I have a severe anxiety disorder. Last June, I got off of Effexor because I was planning to get pregnant. At the end of May, I found out I was pregnant. Anxiety started again....bad!!! Then in June, I found out that I had a blighted ovum and had a D&C. I am afraid that my constant anxiety contributed to my miscarriage. We are planning on TTC again soon. My doctor wants to put me on 10 mg of Lexapro but I am scared of the effect it will have on the pregnancy. But I am also afraid of the effect my anxiety will have on the pregnancy. What should I do?? I want to do what's best for the baby. Please help!!!
Mrs T replied: "My Doctor said that lexapro should have no adverse affects on having a baby. (same situation...ttc but on lexapro)
Also expect whether on antidepressants or not you will have really bad mood swings from crying to screaming.. its a big thing for your body to handle. Just take a deep breath every time you feel anxiety coming on and remember everything will be alright and you just need to get through 1 day at a time.. You know yourself that the bad days pass and there is a good one eventually..
Good Luck!"
Kat1286 replied: "I also suffer from an anxiety disorder, and have battled it since I was a teenager. I'm currently undergoing terrifying tests to see if I have a blighted ovum (I'm six weeks along, and they haven't seen an embryo yet). It's a terribly stressful ordeal, but from what I hear, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the mother or the father. Rest assured, your blighted ovum was not your fault. My nurse explained to me that when fertilization happens, sometimes there's something so wrong with the chromosomal makeup of the baby that your body naturally knows it will not survive on its own, or survive the pregnancy, so before it even has a chance to grow, your body lets it go. It has nothing to do with outside influence. It's a natural process to save us from future pain. I understand that anxiety. I would be very careful with anything I put into my body medication wise if I were TTC. Double check EVERY anti-anxiety medication with a doctor. Do your own research online too. And, if you feel like your doctor just isn't giving you all the facts, get a second opinion or ask your pharmacist. If it's going to hurt the baby or the conception process, you have a right to know. I wish you the best of luck. As for the anxiety upsetting the pregnancy, I wish I could offer you more advice, but unfortunately, I'm right there with you. If there was a magical cure to stop us from panicking, I'd sign up for it in a heartbeat. Best of luck to you though. You'll have a little one soon enough."
What are some pregnancy safe antideppresants? I was on effexor for a year but stopped because Im pregnant and my counselor says that I need to go back on and sent me back to my PCP which I see today..my counselor told me to give my pcp her business card and tell ther that I"m tearful, impulsive, and depressed..anyway.. I'm not a big fan of asking for meds..but what aare some that I can take...exluding prosac and zoloft.
I've taken prosac and zolof they work but not in the bedroom
L A replied: "Celexa is supposed to be safer than effexor. It worked a whole lot better for me too. Nothing is considered "safe" though. Just the benefits outweigh the risks."
Due April 29th! replied: "i was on zoloft before i got pregnant, my OB told me not to take any meds at all and to just keep seeing my conselor and that drugs would be totally last risk, becuase even though the risks of something bad are low its still a risk."
Bird replied: "I only know that zoloft is safe, both my sister and I had to be put on it and the doctor's said that it was safe, or the benefits outweigh the risks."
mommyo replied: "I waS on Effexor and my doctor as well as my midwife said it was safe. Of course there is always a risk when taking antideppresants while pregnant but if the benefits outweigh the risks, take them. Your baby needs a healthy mom during pregnancy and after and if you need these meds, don't hesitate. If Effexor worked for you, go back on them. Good luck."
I'm on effexor 75mg and just found out I'm pregnant. Is it safe to stay on them? My dr. said it's OK to wean off of them, but I was off for a few days and did not like my attitude. I've been told that Zoloft and Paxil are better for anxiety, esp. during pregnancy. Anyone on Effexor and pregnant and told it's OK to stay on them?
searching_please replied: "Be very careful coming off of Effexor! I went off cold turkey and had 2 horrible days of withdrawal symptoms. Remember, anything you go through, your baby goes through. If you aren't sure about what your doctor is saying, call another doctor for a second opinion.
Good luck! :)"
kate M replied: "I think that if you change for Prozac could be better. Effexor is very strong with the nausea sensation.
Good luck!!"
azzy83 replied: "No, it is a definite NO NO. Effexor (or venlafaxine) may be harmful to an unborn baby, and may cause problems in a newborn baby if the mother takes the medication late in pregnancy (during the third trimester). Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or plan to become pregnant during treatment. Effexor can pass into breast milk and may harm a nursing baby. Do not use this medication without telling your doctor if you are breast-feeding a baby."
emt_mmt replied: "All the SSRIs (paxil, effexor, zoloft, etc) are in the same pregnancy category -- which is "C". This just means that no pharmaceutical company is going to take the chance of saying it's ok to take during pregnancy.
When I was pregnant with my first I had been on Paxil and my doctor told me that she didn't recommend I stay on it. I weaned off it for the pregnancy.
My friend is on Lexapro and she is 5 months pregnant. She is not having any problems and she had a 3-D ultrasound of the baby and it looks fine!
Whatever you do, don't just stop taking it. It is okay to wean off over a period of about 2 weeks, but just abruptly stopping will cause serious side effects.
And congratulations on the baby!"
sdg-FNP replied: "Your doctor is correct, and weaning off of Effexor would be best.
Most of the SSRIs (like Zoloft, Prozac, Celexa, etc., ) are category "C." This means there has not been enough proof through data that they cause or can potentially cause any birth defects through the studies that have been done to date. Paxil, is an exception, because this is a category "D" medication, and should NOT be used at any stage of the pregnancy because of outcome data showing bad effects.
There are probably thousands of women who had to take their Prozac or Zoloft throughout the entire pregnancy, because without it, they were much worse. And yet, the child came out just fine. Most of the drug companies know this, and agree that the medication is more than likely safe. However, with our litigious society today, even if your kid at age 15 shows signs of some developmental delay, you have the right to sue. So....they recommend you stop virtually everything, despite what kind of person you turn into. :(
Your Effexor (as like any drug during pregnancy) only has the potential to affect the unborn fetus at SPECIFIC times of development. This is why they say it would be okay to use it in the first two trimesters, but not in the last. Since it works in the brain, on neurotransmitters called Serotonin, then one could hypothesize that because the brain development is so active during this time, then it could be affected.
Talk more with your doctor about your options.
Best of luck to you!!"
Effexor-xr side effects and taking during pregnancy? I have just started (like 2days ago) taking Effexor-xr 37.5mg once a day & I have noticed strange side effects. Feeling my pulse all over my body, skin feeling crawly, strange dreams, headaches, fogginess, unable to sleep, tingling in my hands & tiredness
I want to be fixing my anxiety problem, but I cant function in everyday life feeling the way I do.
I understand my body has to get used to me taking the pills, but I would love to hear from anyone else who has or is taking Effexor-xr & if you had any side effects & did they go away after a short period of time?
Also my husband & I would like to start trying for a family in the next month; my doctor assured me that Effexor-xr was the safest (if there can be one) of the anti-depressants. But looking online, Ive found mixed comments & views. I want to do right for me, but Im more concerned about the effects it will have on a baby. Id love to hear from other people who have taken Effexor-xr through conception & birth.
cmeffa replied: "I would go to the website and ask someone how to wean off of this drug. Do not abruptly stop taking it. But I would look to getting you self off of it. The people at the website are victims of these destructive drugs. I hope this helps."
ChickPea replied: "cmeffa: great site!"
dontwanttofall replied: "I used to take this and i recommend getting off of it! I would get weird pulses through my body that felt like electrical chargers and when I came off of it I went through serious withdrawal! You should try something else and also I don't think its the best idea to be ingesting these things when you are wanting to start a family because you never know what it could do to your baby. Maybe you should try something that relieves anxiety only when absolutely necessary like klonopin or xanax. Good luck!"
hotvw1914cc replied: "Hi Elizabeth, I been on effexor xr since 2002. If theres any way possible get off this med. Most Drs. want give mental meds during pregancy. Effexor xr IS the worst antidepresant to stop. As others said you need to get off slowly. I'm gradually getting off myself. High blood pressure, memory loss , liver damage are some side effects. PLUS many other.
E-mail me thru Y&A if you want.
Jim in N.C."
Shawna M replied: "I currently take 300 mg of Effexor-XR daily. I started taking the medication 10 months ago. Per my doctor's instructions, I started on the lowest dose and doubled every week until I reached 300 mg. Like you, I had some odd side effects when I first started. They went away as the dosage increased and by my first follow up with the doctor, the side effects were gone. Unlike some other people I have encountered online, I have not gained weight or experienced any other side effects on my full dose. It completely helps my generalized anxiety, irritability, and minor depression.
This being said, I agree with some of the other people who answered your questions by telling you to get off this medicine now! I use mail order to fill my pre ion and one time it was late. I ran out and was forced to stop taking it for a week. It was one of the worst weeks of my life. I was extremely irritable. People at work constantly asked if I was doing okay because I did not seem like myself. After a couple of days, I could not sleep and when I did drift off had incredibly vivid nightmares. I experienced hot flashes and chills. I cried at the slightest upset - and by cried I mean sobbed uncontrollably for a long time. I do not know if I will ever be able to get off this medicine. I feel completely trapped.
Unlike your doctor, my doctor (and three others that I have personally contacted) said that I should not take this medicine while trying to get pregnant, while pregnant, or while breastfeeding. They all agreed that the drug itself will pass to the baby and that the effects would not be positive. I am shocked and saddened that your doctor felt this was "the safest" of the anti-depressants. From my experience and discussions with doctors and friends, this is more like one of the worst anti-depressants for pregnancy. The doctors also all agreed that the withdrawal symptoms so common with this medicine would likely effect the baby after being born and separated from my bloodstream and likely between feedings if the medicine was passing through the breast milk (which none of them could tell me would happen or not with any certainly). They also agreed that withdrawal for a baby could be even worse than what happened to me, which as I said above was pretty horrible. I cannot even imagine putting a baby through that.
Basically, I feel like I will never be able to have children. I am currently 30 if that makes this more real for you. I am trapped on this medicine and would never consider becoming pregnant while on it.
As you are still on a low dose, I recommend calling your doctor and having a serious talk about staying on this while pregnant and about withdrawal. If your doctor is not taking your concerns seriously, please find one who will - and fast. I am only answering in this way because I wish someone had been more honest with me before I progressed to 300 mg. My mental issues were not all that bad and I really would have preferred trying several other options before this medicine had I known what I know now.
Part of me hopes someone who has been through this during conception and childbirth answers your question so that you will have more complete information. But part of me hopes that no one out there has had to deal with a baby "on" this medicine or withdrawing from it.
Feel free to contact me directly."
psychgal1977 replied: "I have been taking Effexor for years. I want to be weaned off of this medication in the next six months so that we can start trying to conceive. I have had serious side effects on this medication. Withdrawal symptoms are horrible. It is absolutely not safe to take during pregnancy- I have no idea what your dr was thinking. The only psychotropic medication approved for use during pregnancy is Prozac. This is the only med that the psychiatrists I have worked for have prescribed. Email me if you want more details. Good luck"
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